Date: Apr 09, 2018 7:05 pm Title: March 23 (Part One)
Well, Justin got a dose of his own medicine here. He can hide things to protect but Brian can’t? Sorry, but you don’t get a pass from me sunshine. Our boys still have some talking to do
Author's Response:
That they do; Justin really does need to see that his reaction is no better than Brian's, and I have faith that he will work that out once his head cools a bit; and hopefully, with everything out in the open, they will sit down and talk, and actually listen to each other this time. Thanks for reading! :)
Date: Apr 09, 2018 6:50 pm Title: March 23 (Part One)
They are both right in ways, and both are most definitely wrong.
I think Brina is kdding himself if he really thinks that Lindsey will just stop her schemes and games just because of a peice of paper. Is it neivete or is it demial. A part of him still hoping that there's a bit of decency still in her? I know what he says...but is he really beleiving it. Justin is able to see if from a less biased POV. He never had a relationship with her like Brian did. He has good reason not to trust her. I do agree though that he should've talked to Brian. I know Brian would more than likely tried to take over, tried to do things his own way, etc, but he still should've been told. That was all vital information and he could've helped. I don't think it was a lack of trust on Justin's part, but it was definitely protecting him.
Brian thankfully has been upfront or at least more so than Justin was, about what's going on. A frightening situation and Justin needs to be aware so he can be more careful. I think also that Justin is being neive on his part too. thinking that he's dealt with simon etc. Gee...I wonder who's behind the stalking? or behind the drugging? Yup...Justin needs to get his head out of his ass when it comes to Simon. It's not over by any means.
Neither dealt with things well. Both need to get a handle on how to deal with these issues. both need to communicate with the other better. Have to say though, Brian has come a long way!!
Terrific update!
Cheers,
Elaine
Author's Response:
I'm not exactly sure what Brian is holding over Lindsay's head, as he's not talking about it yet; but he is indeed holding something over her head and it's significant enough that he he feels that it will keep her in line. Now, whether it actually will is another situation entirely. As someone pointed out in another review, desperate people will take desperate measues to secure their position. And Lindsay has always be out for number one; and I don't think even Gus could stop her if she were truly pushed into a corner. We'll have to see where this leads.
Justin is equally blind; he thinks that he knows what Simon's response will be based on past actions. But, Justin has been actively aggravating the issue by saving Simon's would-be toys and messing with his games. He's excaped his wrath so far because of his prominance. But it doesn't mean that Simon will hold off indefinitely. And he needs to face that fact.
And yes, they are both wrong in this situation; not that the desire to protect the one you love is in any way, shape or form wrong, but they went about it in the wrong way. Keeping secrets is never a good idea; especially whne you're dealing with an unbalanced individual like the stalker. They need to both pull their heads out of their asses and get it together before this asshole strikes again.
Thanks for reading! :)
[Report This]Date: Apr 09, 2018 4:26 pm Title: March 23 (Part One)
Brian and Justin have a lot of anger to move past before they can talk calmy and rationally.
Brian is being naive about how manipulative Lindsay is when she isn't getting her way, what good is a piece of paper when Lindsay has been playing Brian for years and despite knowing how manipulative she is Brian forgives and excuses her behavior?
Hell he did it for Michael for years and even after the bashing and Michael was still picking on Justin Brian excused it??
It took Brian years to really truly stand up to both of them, perhaps Justin didn't think Brian would believe or listen to him?
Now on to Justin who is being naive about Simon and his Cronies not wanting revenge for Justin getting in the way of their illicit fun?
Someone could be using or working with the Stalker and/ or Blaine to scare and intimidate Justin to stop interfering??
Never underestimate the desperate they are more ruthless cause they figure if they are going down anyway then they have nothing else to lose by murdering someone.
Is it just Lindsay Justin is worried about or is it something else?
If it's something else then Justin's continued lying is not justified they can take it on together rather than apart.
They both need to put all the cards on the table including the big red anger cards, talk and move on cause Lindsay isn't going to stay away for much longer, neither is The Stalker or Blaine.
Also Emmett and everyone else needs to stay away and out of their relationship For Good.
Drew was smart not to take sides and keep his nose and everything else out of it.
Author's Response:
That has always been a problem with Brian; he's always forgiven Lindsay, and Michael, far too easily. I know that if my so-called friends had done even a fraction of the things that they've done to him, they would no longer be my friends. I don't tolerate stupidity or abuse when it comes to my friendships, and those who think they can treat me that way, get kicked to the curb. I hope that Brian is finally growing beyond that.
Justin is indeed being naive; whether it is Simon and his cronies or not, he bears watching because Justin has been routinely pissing in Simon's pond and a man like Simon will not take that well at all. He needs to see that this is a potential threat to him and Brian so long as Justin keeps rescuing these kids.
As for Lindsay, I think there are many reasons that Justin didn't tell Brian, and part of that goes back to Brian always defending Lindsay and Micahel even when they were so obviously in the wrong. Brian has done it numerous times and Justin is likely gun shy about that. As for what other reasons well, we'll have to wait and see if their are any.
The boys will get there eventually; it's just going to take some work from the both of them. Thanks for reading! :)
Date: Apr 09, 2018 4:12 pm Title: March 23 (Part One)
Wow, what tangled webs they end up in, but I know you will get them straightened out eventually. Love the pictures, especially Liam Doyle-Chanders. Gee is someone a Mr. Grey fan, also ????? LOL Great chatper.
Author's Response:
Yeah, they sure made a mess of this thing; but I have a feeling that now that everything is out, they'll get their heads straight and resolve things. :) As for Mr. Grey, while I'm not a 50 Shades fan, I can't deny that Jamie Dornan is a beautiful man. :)
Date: Apr 09, 2018 4:01 pm Title: March 23 (Part One)
As Brian summarized it: "That went well". After Brian storming out, now it's Justin.
I love how Drew is very fact based and very observant.
Author's Response:
Well, they were always going to butt heads once Justin found out that Brian was keeping things secret as well. He's never been very happy when Brian holds things back or in for 'his own good' and I didn't really see him saying, 'I completely understand why you did this, honey.' They were always going to, at the very least, have a heated discussion on this. and I love Drew in this; if only more of the family too this approach. Thanks for reading! :)
[Report This]Date: Apr 09, 2018 1:36 pm Title: March 23 (Part One)
Now it seems that we are right back where we started from. Only now it is Justin who is leaving before he says something. sigh. I guess it would be hard for Justin to tell Brian about how nasty Lindsay was, but was it because he thought Brian wouldn't understand? Afterall, Brian had Lindsay's number when he went after his rights?
Author's Response:
Well, this was nevr going to be a smooth conversation between the two of them; they were already very stressed and dealing with heightened emotins due to the confrontation with Lindsay, the family all trying to get their two cents in, no matter how accurate they might be in some of their observations, and the first fight between them. It was bound to reach explosion levels when everything was revealed. As for Justin, I think there is a lot of shades to why he did waht he did at the time. Yes, Lindsay seemed contained, but Brian also had a history of forgiving her and Michael far too easily. I can understand Justin's fear that it could happen again. I don't agree that he should have kept it a secret, but I do understand those feelings. Thanks for reading! :)
Date: Apr 09, 2018 1:27 pm Title: March 23 (Part One)
What a tangled web we weave...all rhe harder to get out of when fighting against it.
Author's Response:
That is for sure! Maybe this will teach them a lesson on being upfront with each other. Well, one can hope. Thanks for reading! :)
Date: Apr 09, 2018 10:44 am Title: March 23 (Part One)
I know they were both dreading the conversation but it needed to be had.
Thanks for the pictures. :)
Author's Response:
It did need to happen. Keeping screts will only make things worse no matter their intentions. And I'm glad the Brian told Justin about the developments in the case, because he really needs to be aware that there is another element to the stalker situation. Thanks for reading! :)
Date: Apr 09, 2018 9:48 am Title: March 23 (Part One)
I agree, this isn't just Justin being in the wrong, half of their relationship is Brian making decisions for others because he thinks he knows what's best for everyone. He knows how independent Justin is (remember the Kip story-line). Justin is just as strong when it comes to protecting others as Brian is, so I don't see this all being Justin's fault, they are BOTH at fault, and they both have to deal with their "I'll take care of you first" theme they got going here. Hell there are things to this day that Justin doesn't know, like I said Brian has kept quite a lot from Justin. And I'm with Justin, a piece of paper that tells Lindsay she can't do this or that isn't going to stop her getting what she wants, plus Brian has given free passes to Lindsay and Michael in the past, he's forgiven very easily.
Final words, they are both in the wrong, they should both apologize and move on, but still knowing that both of them will do what they have to to protect the ones they love.
Author's Response:
They definitely share the blame when it comes to this situation, and others. As they say, it takes two to tango, and Justin didn't get here by himself. And neither did Brian for that matter. They always have the best of intentions, thinking that they know how the other will react, and what will be best for them in the end. And that always backfires on them. You would think that they'd learn by now, but they always seem to fall into that trap of thinking they know best. Hopefully, now that everyting is in the open, they can talk it out like rational adults and move onto other important matters. Thanks for reading! :)